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Opposition parties accused of racism over health equity claims

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Opposition parties have been accused of trying to whip up racism over a tool which prioritises surgery waitlists based partly on ethnicity.

Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson was asked to apologise after making the accusation in Parliament today.

The ‘Equity Adjuster’ tool was introduced to some hospitals in Auckland and Northland in February, and uses an algorithm to rank people who have been waiting for surgery for more than two years.

It uses five criteria including clinical priority; time already spent on waitlist; rural isolation; deprivation level; and ethnicity – namely, prioritising Māori and Pasifika over others.

It is that ethnicity measure which has riled opposition parties, with National’s Shane Reti on Monday calling it offensive and wrong, and urging the use of the tool to be halted immediately.

National rollout delayed, awaiting further evidence
Prime Minister Chris Hipkins later confirmed he had asked Health Minister Ayesha Verrall to look into whether the tool was working as it should, and “that we’re not replacing one form of discrimination with another”.

Prime Minister Chris Hipkins talks to journalists.Prime Minister Chris Hipkins. Photo: VNP / Phil Smith
“Those who are arguing that we should do absolutely nothing need to explain to New Zealanders why they think that Māori, Pacific, rural, and low-income people should have to wait longer with the same clinical need for healthcare as other New Zealanders,” he said.

“I don’t think that form of discrimination has a place in our health system. I think it’s right that Te Whatu Ora are grappling with how best to address the fact that that has been the case up until now.”

On Tuesday, he told reporters at Parliament the national rollout of the tool would be put on hold until Verrall’s review of it was complete.

“She’s given me an assurance that’s not going to be rolled out any further while that’s happening,” he said. “We don’t want anyone waiting on a wait list for two years, but in getting through the backlog we want to make sure we’re doing that equitably.”

‘It should be about need’ – National
Under questioning from Reti in Parliament on Tuesday, Verrall confirmed the severity of a patient’s health condition was the most influential factor in the algorithm.

“For a clinically high-priority procedure, the other variables will have almost no weight in the algorithm and, therefore, would not influence a person’s wait time. The second most influential factor is the number of days the patient has already been waiting,” she said.

She said she had already met with the multi-disciplinary group who designed the algorithm, and the evidence she had seen so far suggested it was effective for closing gaps between different ethnic groups.

“It brings everyone to equal. We need to continue to track that in the place that it’s been used, which is just two hospitals.

“There are markers we can track along the way including making sure that different groups are waiting an equal time to get their surgery and no group is disadvantaged. That’s what I’ve seen so far.”

National leader Christopher Luxon argued waitlists should only be prioritised based on health need.

“We want everything to be based on a need base only, we will deliver to communities through community health based organisations,” he said.

National Party leader Christopher LuxonPhoto: RNZ / Angus Dreaver
“It should be about need. Everything’s about need. The people at the top of the waiting list are those in the most need. These are scarce resources, they’re allocated to people on the basis of their needs, [regardless of] whether they’re Māori, whether they’re non-Māori.”

Reti said clinical severity was only one aspect to consider, and he could see the logic in considering other things like deprivation or time already waited.

“I think some of the other parts – like how long you’ve been on the waiting lists, that kind of makes sense … I think deprivation makes sense as well, so no, it is the ethnicity part that mostly worries me. I can see some logic with some of the other parts.”

He acknowledged there was a disparity in care for Māori and Pacific people, but suggested the other four criteria already covered off some of the causes of that.

Shane RetiDr Shane Reti. Photo: RNZ / Samuel Rillstone
“There’s no doubt there’s inequities, I’ve talked about it for decades, even published on it actually, but I don’t believe this is the mechanism to do that, to resolve that.

“The solutions to that are to have better cultural competency across the whole health sector, so that when we train at medical schools and nursing schools we’re trained in cultural competency.”

Luxon later clarified his own stance, saying he and Reti were in agreement – those other factors were part of what he was calling “health need”.

“We’re in the same camp. Essentially what we’re saying is the overarching and only principle we should be considering in health is health need. Obviously health need is shaped by clinical state, it’s shaped by time on waiting list, it’s shaped by deprivation.

“Those things are all adding up to an assessment of individual health need – and so you don’t need to have ethnicity in there on its own because actually you’ll pick up Māori, Pasifika, non-Māori, across that, if you come at it from the lens of health need.”

Luxon said it was clear that surgeons were not comfortable with the tool.

“The reality is it’s a government-imposed criteria that’s been put on clinicians and that’s what they’re reacting to and saying ‘it’s unfair’, it’s not the way that they want to look at things,” he said.

When it was put to him that the tool had been designed by clinicians, he said “I don’t care. There is no room for health services to be based on ethnicity rather than need”.

It was also put to him that the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons supported the tool, but he dismissed that too.

“Pretty simple, team. I’m sorry, but we just might have a difference of opinion on it, but with respect to health there’s only one lens to come through and that’s about people’s needs – whether it’s medical, surgical – and the support that they need to be able to deliver that, rather than ethnicity.”

Verrall suggested using a different label such as life expectancy would be tricky to calculate without taking ethnicity into account.

“The fact is, we know that life expectancy is hugely influenced in New Zealand by ethnicity, so any effort to incorporate life expectancy would default to one based on ethnicity. It’s so important we address these inequities in the health system.

“We know there is decades of evidence that Māori and Pasifika wait too long for care. This tool, what I’ve seen, is that it closes those gaps and therefore it’s important we continue to evaluate it.”

Green co-leader ejected after racism claim
ACT’s David Seymour was also critical of the ethnicity measure.

“Everything should be nationwide, but this particular policy of putting some people up the list and some people down with the same need but different races we just oppose. We think it’s wrong. We think people should be treated according to their circumstances, and their clinical need, their location and their deprivation – not their ethnicity.

ACT Party leader David Seymour.Photo: RNZ / Samuel Rillstone
“It is true that Māori and Pacific people have worse health outcomes but so do all people who have bad housing regardless of race. Maybe that should be an issue. We need to get the public service focused on the actual data.”

He and his MPs Nicole McKee, Karen Chhour and James McDowall targeted the matter in Question Time this afternoon.

Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson questioned whether this went against a previous speaker’s ruling which called on MPs to take care about the wider consequences of their statements and questions in Parliament.

“The nature of these questions are absolutely intended to raise racist opinions amongst the New Zealand public,” she said.

She was pulled up on this by Speaker Adrian Rurawhe however.

“It’s a discussion that perhaps this House should have one day, but you cannot make that accusation in this House,” he said. He asked her to apologise, but removed her after she phrased her apology incorrectly.

After leaving the chamber, she told reporters she would abide by the speaker’s rulings but it was important to stand up to racism.

“The speaker will make the decisions as he sees fit. What’s most important to me is we should be taking leadership. The health access has not been good for everyone and that’s got to change,” she said.

Green Party co-leaders Marama DavidsonGreen Party co-leader Marama Davidson. Photo: RNZ/ Angus Dreaver
“I’m upset about the line of questioning that the ACT party is using, they actually don’t care about equity, they are weaponising fear and division of people for votes. That to me seems quite horrific, actually.

“It is because of ethnicity that the inequity exists in the first place. I’m open to making sure we address the equities in the right way but we have to remember it is because of ethnicity that those inequities exist in the first place.”

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Debbie Ngarewa-Packer backed that view.

“What we have is an election period that’s been completely run by a bunch of racists, and this isn’t new to us. It’s disappointing but not new,” she said.

“We think the tone of questionings is going to continue to create disorder, I know that it has for us. And sadly that’s what we’ve seen the opposition parties get relegated to is this low level – race baiting.

“I don’t think we should be shy to say that tangata whenua are suffering some of the worst consequences, and through the fault of systems that haven’t been designed with them in mind.

Debbie Ngarewa-PackerDebbie Ngarewa-Packer Photo: RNZ / Samuel Rillstone
“I don’t know what is a pretty way to state the obvious, and I think we should be less uncomfortable with that but more uncomfortable with being shamed or blamed because you have suffered those consequences of oppression and systemic racism for a very long time.”

Seymour rejected the party was stirring up racism.

“The point of some of the questions that they asked is ‘How is it possible that my husband and I live under the same roof, but are somehow going to be treated differently based on our different ethnic backgrounds’,” he told RNZ.

“There certainly are inequities between Māori as a group, and non-Māori as a group … but if your lens is an ethnic lens then of course it’s not surprising that you find ethnic differences. That lens averages people out, it misses people who are doing very well thank you very much but are seen as needy because of their ethnicity. It also misses people who have greater needs but the ‘wrong’, so-to-speak, ethnicity.

“It seems their objection is a policy debate, and they should enter into that policy debate without throwing around these epithets of racism. That doesn’t help.”

It was wrong to say their approach was aimed only at getting votes, he said.

“It’s a difficult charge to answer, because of course every political party including them are trying to get people to vote for them – that’s how democracy works … but the idea that’s the only reason we raise these issues is patently untrue.”

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Police say person who fired gun at officers still at large

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Police say a person who fired a gun at officers in Napier is still at large.

Eastern District Commander Superintendent Joel Lamb said Police tried to stop a vehicle in the Pirimai Area at about 10pm on Tuesday.

He said someone in the back seat pointed what was presumed to be a firearm at officers pursuing the vehicle.

“Staff have then heard two distinct gunshots as the firearm was discharged.

“Fortunately, neither of our officers were injured, and the patrol vehicle did not sustain any damage.”

He said hours later, the vehicle was seen travelling north on the Waikato Expressway towards Auckland.

Police seized the vehicle at an address in Manurewa, but they had not found the alleged offender.

Lamb said people who lived at the Manurewa address were engaging with Police.

He said Eastern District and Counties Manukau Police were making enquiries.

“Presenting a firearm at a Police officer is a serious escalation that puts our staff and the wider community at risk. This behaviour is entirely unacceptable.

“We are taking this incident extremely seriously and will be pursuing all lines of enquiry to locate the offender and hold them accountable.”

Police asked anyone who witnessed the incident to contact Police on 105 or online using the reference number 261111/3764.

Information could also be provided anonymously via Crime Stoppers on 0800 555 111.

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New Zealand sides named for RLWC finals

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The players tasked with ending Australia’s Rugby League World Cup dominance have been named.

The Kiwis and Kiwi Ferns have announced their squads for this Sunday’s World Cup finals in Brisbane.

Both sides are chasing their first titles since 2008, and both are looking to end their opponents run of three crowns in a row.

“Our Kiwi Ferns have been so dominant in years gone by, and we want to bring dominance back to this jersey, so I think it will be a case of who wants it more,” said co-captain Georgia Hale of the impending clash.

The Kiwis get a major boost for the final as they welcome back Ronaldo Mulitalo after he served a one-match ban for a high tackle against Fiji Bati.

Mulitalo replaces Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, who moves to the six-man bench, which again includes utility Te Maire Martin, middle forwards Naufahu Whyte, Erin Clark and Xavier Willison plus fullback Keano Kini.

Loose forward Joseph Tapine will make his 30th Test appearance in a familiar pack again, including second-rowers Isaiah Papali’i and Briton Nikora, and props James Fisher-Harris and Moses Leota.

Winger Jamayne Isaako is on the cusp of claiming the New Zealand record for most Test points.

His five goals against Tonga lifted his career points tally to 225 – level with Shaun Johnson – while centre Casey McLean goes into the final with 16 tries in just eight Tests.

Fisher-Harris will again captain the team.

Fullback Ponga said the goal of the group was clear.

“We have high expectations around what we want to achieve, and obviously winning a world Cup is one of them.”

Meanwhile, Ricky Henry has selected a settled side to take on the Jillaroos, led by their lethal centre combination of Stacey Waaka and Mele Hufanga.

Veteran Apii Nicholls takes the number one jersey, Leianne Tufuga and Mackenzie Wiki on the wings.

Henry has stuck with his halves pairing of Chantay Kiria-Ratu and Raecene McGregor with Alexis Tauaneai, Georgia Hale and Otesa Pule up front.

Rounding out the starting pack is Shaniece Monschau, Kaiyah Atai, and Angelina Teakaraanga-Katoa.

“We have been building well throughout the tournament; we understand the Jillaroos side, and will give it our all to make New Zealand proud this weekend,” said Henry.

RLWC Finals:

Kiwi Ferns vs Jillaroos- 6.10pm

Kiwis vs Kangaroos – 9.35pm

Sunday November 15

Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane

Live blog updates on RNZ

Kiwi Ferns:

1. Apii Nicholls 2. Leianne Tufuga 3. Mele Hufanga 4. Stacey Waaka 5. Mackenzie Wiki 6. Chantay Kiria-Ratu 7. Raecene McGregor 8. Alexis Tauaneai 9. Georgia Hale 10. Otesa Pule 11. Shaniece Monschau 12. Kaiyah Atai 13. Angelina Teakaraanga-Katoa.

Interchange: 14. Ashleigh Quinlan 15. Annessa Biddle 16. Shannon Mato 17. Ivana Lauitiiti.

Reserves: 18. Brooke Anderson 19. Zahara Temara 20. Brianna Clark 21. Abigail Roache 22. Tenika Willison.

Kiwis:

1. Kalyn Ponga, 2. Jamayne Isaako, 3. Dane Gagai, 4. Casey McLean, 5. Ronaldo Mulitalo, 6. Kodi Nikorima, 7. Jahrome Hughes, 8. James Fisher-Harris (c), 9. Jeremy Marshall-King, 10. Moses Leota, 11. Isaiah Papali’i, 12. Briton Nikora, 13. Joseph Tapine (v/c).

Interchange: 14. Te Maire Martin, 15. Naufahu Whyte, 16. Erin Clark, 17. Xavier Willison.

Reserves: 18. Keano Kini, 19. Phoenix Crossland, 20. Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad, 21. Scott Sorensen, 22. Leo Thompson.

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Parliamentary Service working on extra chairs and offices for increased number of MPs

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The chief executive of the Parliamentary Service is confident there will be enough room to accommodate the increased number of MPs and their staff coming into Parliament.

On current numbers, up to 131 MPs could be sitting in the Chamber following the election, brought on by a record overhang result.

Clerk of the House of Representatives Dr David Wilson told the Spinoff that currently the debating chamber had enough chairs to seat 124 MPs – including the Speaker of the House – and work was being done to accommodate more by altering the seating arrangement.

In a statement, Parliamentary Service chief executive Rafael Gonzalez-Montero said planning for a larger Parliament had been going for “some time”.

“Now that the election results have confirmed an increase to the number of members we are looking at several options.

“We are confident we will be able to accommodate all members within the Chamber.”

Chief Executive of the Parliamentary Service Rafael Gonzalez-Montero appears before select committee.
Parliamentary Service chief executive Rafael Gonzalez-Montero.

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Gonzalez-Montero said office accommodation for members and their staff would be “stretched” for a short time, but the new Members’ Building was only a few months away from “practical completion”.

That building – located behind Parliament – was due to be ready to occupy in April next year and had capacity to accommodate around 30 backbench MPs.

“All members should be in fit-for-purpose accommodation from that point,” Gonzalez-Montero said.

Following the 2023 election, 123 MPs sat in the Chamber – a record number at the time. That decreased to 122 following the resignation of National MP Judith Collins.

Collins held the seat of Papakura and stepped down in May and Parliament voted against holding a by-election because it was too close to the election.

The election result also meant high-ranking National Party MPs like Chris Bishop, Paul Goldsmith, Nicola Willis and Gerry Brownlee – Speaker of the House and an MP for 30 years – would likely not make it back into Parliament.

Only resigning or retiring MPs were permitted to give a valedictory speech meaning none of them would get the chance to give a valedictory statement.

Asked if their would be special allowances for valedictories, Wilson said in a statement that normally only MPs were allowed to speak in the House but the House could suspend its own rules or temporarily alter them.

“It could do so to allow former members to address the House.”

Wilson said no such arrangements could be made until the next Parliament opened and members sworn in.

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