{"id":6281,"date":"2023-07-07T13:03:10","date_gmt":"2023-07-07T01:03:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=6281"},"modified":"2023-07-07T13:03:46","modified_gmt":"2023-07-07T01:03:46","slug":"no-curries-how-indian-nzers-experience-racism-from-venues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=6281","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;No curries&#8217;: How Indian NZers experience racism from venues"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Two young New Zealanders of Indian background tell us about times they\u2019ve felt judged or discriminated against by venues.<\/p>\n<div class=\" [&amp;_h1]:m-lg md:[&amp;_h1]:d-m-lg [&amp;_h2]:m-sm md:[&amp;_h2]:d-m-sm [&amp;_h3]:m-xs md:[&amp;_h3]:d-m-xs [&amp;_h4]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h4]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h5]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h5]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h6]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h6]:d-m-2xs \">\n<h2 class=\"articleLinkText mb-4 pt-2 \">The wedding venue: \u2018Highly fragrant foods have been an issue\u2019<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">When Aradhana dreamed of her wedding day, she imagined a garden venue with \u201cflowers and beautiful foliage and a really nice view\u201d and of course delicious food.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">The 28-year-old, who grew up in India and New Zealand, doesn\u2019t want her last name used for this article as she\u2019s worried about how it might impact her plans for her wedding.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">She and her fiance loved the idea of Begonia House in Wellington\u2019s Botanic Gardens and began the process to book it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Begonia House is a tropical flower glasshouse run by Wellington City Council that\u2019s open to the public, with a foyer available to hire for events like weddings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Confirming a caterer is a standard part of the venue\u2019s booking process, and Aradhana says things were going smoothly while they were looking at using a caterer called Upper Hutt Events Centre.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">But when they decided to switch to a caterer called Chilli Masala, the Begonia House events manager told them she would need to see the food and how it was being delivered because \u201chighly fragrant foods have been an issue in the past at the venue as it is a public space during the daytime\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Aradhana says she felt this was coded language, and made her wonder: \u201cAre you trying to specify that Indian food is a problem?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">When her fiance asked for more details about what the issues with fragrant food had been in the past or what specifications they would need to meet, the venue manager told them as long as any curries were premade and ready to go in bain maries for a buffet service it would be fine, but no ovens were allowed to come in and no cooking or heating up of curries was allowed at the venue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cThe past issues have been people saying they will bring in food ready to go but they have ended up bringing in an oven and cooking on site and filling the venue full of cooking fumes without disclosing this to us,\u201d the venue manager said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cI hope I have explained that clearly, as we are not a dedicated hire venue but a working glasshouse open to the public everyday this type of catering we cannot accommodate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Aradhana says the fact \u201chighly fragrant foods\u201d were only raised as a potential issue when she mentioned a catering company with an Indian name made her feel \u201cquite hurt\u201d and not want to proceed with booking the venue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cI think you could say that about any food.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cFunnily enough, the first caterer also did Indian food, but it was just that we were going to have a mix of Indian and other more traditional Kiwi wedding food.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">The fact that Begonia House is a council-owned venue made the experience feel \u201cabsolutely horrible\u201d, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cAfter that we ruled out the option of going to this place, because it sort of felt like a tainted experience. We were really looking forward to this venue.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">A spokesperson for the Wellington City Council Botanic Gardens staff who are in charge of Begonia House said in an email: \u201cI\u2019m sorry to hear that the bride did not feel welcome to use the Begonia House for her wedding. We can do better in the way we communicate. It was not our intention to discriminate against her, but I recognise that this is how she felt. We will work to be clearer about the limitations of our facilities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">They said the prep kitchen in the Begonia House is not a full kitchen, just a room with sinks and benches, and there are no exhaust fans, so they ask caterers to bring the food already heated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">In terms of \u201chighly fragrant food\u201d, they said in the past they have allowed caterers to cook food inside the Begonia House.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cBecause we don\u2019t have exhaust fans in the kitchen, the fragrance of the food permeated the Begonia House. After which we got complaints from members of the public who came to the Begonia House expecting to smell fragrant flowers but were met with the smell of fish or BBQ from the function the night before.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cI recognise that these constraints could have been communicated more effectively. I\u2019m truly sorry for the hurt the bride and groom feel. I can assure them that we have had this issue with all sorts of cuisine.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\" [&amp;_h1]:m-lg md:[&amp;_h1]:d-m-lg [&amp;_h2]:m-sm md:[&amp;_h2]:d-m-sm [&amp;_h3]:m-xs md:[&amp;_h3]:d-m-xs [&amp;_h4]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h4]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h5]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h5]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h6]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h6]:d-m-2xs \">\n<h2 class=\"articleLinkText mb-4 pt-2 \">The holiday home: \u2018no curries to be cooked in the house\u2019<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">As part of Krishna\u2019s best man duties for his closest friend\u2019s wedding, he needed to book a holiday home for the bachelor party.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Five months in advance, he booked on the website Bookabach for a night\u2019s stay at a property on the outskirts of Auckland and paid the full cost of over $1600.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">There was nothing in the house rules about cooking, but it didn\u2019t matter either way, he says, because they weren\u2019t planning on cooking anyway.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">But the night before they were due to check in, he got an email from the property\u2019s owner: \u201cno curries to be cooked in the house\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Krishna, who doesn\u2019t want his real name used, and who was born in New Zealand and has Indian heritage, says he felt the message was only sent because he has an Indian name.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">He shared a screenshot with the stag night group chat.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cWe had a little bit of a laugh about it, but then also sort of realised that probably was a pretty inappropriate comment to make and it was slightly racist. Or that&#8217;s how I felt anyway.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">The next day when he went to go meet the owner, he says she didn\u2019t give him a set of keys to the house, which made him feel uncomfortable as it meant they weren\u2019t able to lock the doors so they were worried about the safety of their belongings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">The owner also asked him for a copy of his credit card details, which he found odd because he had already paid in full for the property.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cShe basically wrote down every single detail on my credit card including the three digits at the back and the expiry and everything so she basically had enough to do some online shopping if she really wanted to,\u201d Krishna says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cThen the final remark from her before I went off was, \u2018So what are you boys going to be having for dinner?\u2019 So she was really just checking that I wasn&#8217;t going to be cooking curry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Sarah King, senior manager of public relations at Expedia Group, which owns Bookabach, says Bookabach has a zero-tolerance policy regarding acts of harassment, violence or discrimination.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">After Re: News raised Krishna\u2019s case, she says they are investigating the matter and have hidden the holiday house listing until it is resolved.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cHosts should never take guest credit cards and if they try the guests need to call us so we can handle the situation,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"articleLinkText mb-4 pt-2 \">\u2018It devalues and marginalises traditional or cultural food practices\u2019: academic<\/h2>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Dietician and senior lecturer at University of Auckland Rajshri Roy says food discrimination and stigma can lead people to have a disconnect from their cultural identities and heritage, which can impact their relationship with food and nutrition.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cDiscrimination or a lack of recognition of food practices can lead to disconnection from people&#8217;s traditional ingredients, their cooking techniques, and their usual dietary patterns, which can then impact on their ability to maintain their cultural food identities, and that can contribute to a sense of cultural erasure.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">She says for herself, growing up as an Indian immigrant, she would think twice about bringing curry in her school lunchbox and would ask her parents to pack \u201cmore Western appropriate foods\u201d because of fear of how others would react.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cIt&#8217;s important for us to acknowledge that there are impacts of racism and discrimination on food. And it can be quite complex and multifaceted.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">For people who might think \u2018it\u2019s just one meal\u2019, she says \u201cit&#8217;s not about what we can, can or cannot do for one day\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cBeing told that, constantly reminds you of the fact that you might be an outsider and that you don&#8217;t fit in. Telling you that you can&#8217;t do something that&#8217;s so culturally rooted in your values, might really affect your confidence and enjoyment of being in a country where you want to feel valued, and you want to feel included.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\" [&amp;_h1]:m-lg md:[&amp;_h1]:d-m-lg [&amp;_h2]:m-sm md:[&amp;_h2]:d-m-sm [&amp;_h3]:m-xs md:[&amp;_h3]:d-m-xs [&amp;_h4]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h4]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h5]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h5]:d-m-2xs [&amp;_h6]:m-2xs md:[&amp;_h6]:d-m-2xs \">\n<h2 class=\"articleLinkText mb-4 pt-2 \">History of similar experiences<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Aradhana says this isn\u2019t the first time she\u2019s experienced something like this.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">One time she and her partner were looking for a place to rent in Wellington, \u201cand in the middle of a viewing with 20 other people, we had the landlord look at me and say \u2018You&#8217;re not going to be cooking lots of curries are you?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cAnd it&#8217;s really just talking with friends that it truly made me realise that no one else has to experience something like this. So why am I feeling like I have to just push it aside?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">Krishna has previously worried people were judging his culture\u2019s food before but he\u2019s never had it spelt out in an email till the Bookabach incident.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cI work in a fairly large company, and I don&#8217;t think I would ever just bring a curry from home and heat it up in the microwave for lunch, just purely because I wouldn&#8217;t want to be made fun of.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">He says in the past he would have brushed off an incident like the Bookabach one but he has a young daughter and wouldn\u2019t want her to go through something like this.<\/p>\n<p class=\"body-paragraph articleLinkText lg mb-4\">\u201cSo maybe I should speak up this time, rather than just you know, not saying anything.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Source: 1 news<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two young New Zealanders of Indian background tell us about times they\u2019ve felt judged or discriminated against by venues. 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