{"id":6128,"date":"2023-07-04T05:15:03","date_gmt":"2023-07-03T17:15:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=6128"},"modified":"2023-07-04T05:15:03","modified_gmt":"2023-07-03T17:15:03","slug":"pm-chris-hipkins-to-put-staffing-claims-to-allan-after-eu-trip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=6128","title":{"rendered":"PM Chris Hipkins to put staffing claims to Allan after EU trip"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Prime Minister Chris Hipkins intends to speak to Cabinet Minister Kiri Allan in a couple of weeks about recent claims of past disunity with her staff.<\/p>\n<p>He suggests the ongoing media interest is a sign of a higher bar for ministerial behaviour than in the past.<\/p>\n<p>Allan has been under scrutiny after a series of concerns about her relationships with staff were raised in the media.<\/p>\n<p>Department of Conservation Director-General Penny Nelson had said\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/492799\/doc-boss-confirms-poor-relationships-in-minister-kiri-allan-s-office\">one staff member ended their secondment early<\/a>\u00a0and she had raised concerns with Ministerial Services, but no further problems arose and relationships improved.<\/p>\n<p>In answer to an Official Information Act request, National Emergency Management Agency chief executive David Gawn also said he was\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/492831\/kiri-allan-rejects-claims-she-treated-staff-badly\">aware of concerns<\/a>\u00a0regarding relationships in Allan&#8217;s office, and further action was taken to resolve it.<\/p>\n<p>Late last week, Stuff also reported an anonymous senior public servant as saying the minister\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stuff.co.nz\/national\/politics\/300917291\/kiri-allan-yelled-and-screamed-at-me-senior-public-servant-says\">had yelled and screamed at staff<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>However, clear details about what happened or who was involved remain scant, and Allan has strenuously denied ever facing serious allegations from staff or ever shouting at staff. Speaking at a select committee last week, she\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/492831\/kiri-allan-rejects-claims-she-treated-staff-badly\">accused National MPs of a &#8220;fishing exercise&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0and challenged them to put to her any concerns about her being able to perform her duties.<\/p>\n<div class=\"photo-captioned photo-captioned-full photo-cntr eight_col \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/rnz-ressh.cloudinary.com\/image\/upload\/s--DFwPj5FJ--\/ar_16:10,c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,q_auto,w_1050\/v1687986744\/4L6NW68_Select_Committee_9_June_9_jpg\" alt=\"Kiri Allan in Select Committee\" width=\"1050\" height=\"700\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\"><span class=\"caption\">Allan was defiant over year-old claims about her relationships with staff, during select committee last week.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photo:\u00a0RNZ \/ Samuel Rillstone<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Prime Minister Chris Hipkins was on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/national\/programmes\/focusonpolitics\/audio\/2018896567\/hipkins-in-china\">a trade trip to China during the week<\/a>, but repeatedly stressed no formal complaints had been laid and &#8220;in every ministerial office, from time to time, there&#8217;ll be periods of heightened tension&#8221; but he had not had a chance to speak with her directly and at length about the matter.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking after the weekly Cabinet meeting on Monday, Hipkins said he had spoken to Allan briefly but still had yet to traverse the matter &#8211; he intended to do that after Parliament&#8217;s recess.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve indicated to Kiri that we&#8217;ll have a catch-up when I get back from Europe which will be in a couple of weeks time. I&#8217;ve suggested to her that she take a couple of weeks off and she&#8217;s going to be doing that,&#8221; Hipkins said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Kiri had a rough couple of weeks and I think it would be good for her to take some time off, she&#8217;s indicated that she would like to take some time off, it&#8217;s school holidays, and I think that would be a good thing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Generally speaking when any minister has been the subject of intense scrutiny, as Kiri has been in the past few weeks, I would encourage them to take a bit of a breath and that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing here.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Allan was also on leave last week, due to her mental health &#8211; relating to a mix of personal circumstances and external pressures like the effects of Cyclone Gabrielle in her region &#8211; until she returned to Parliament on Thursday.<\/p>\n<p>After Hipkins&#8217; comments on Monday however, she posted on social media to clarify her new leave was not because of her mental health.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not on &#8216;mental health leave again&#8217;,&#8221; she wrote, rejecting the characterisation from reporters.<\/p>\n<div class=\"photo-captioned photo-captioned-half photo-right four_col \"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/rnz-ressh.cloudinary.com\/image\/upload\/s--RsW3Aib5--\/c_scale,f_auto,q_auto,w_576\/v1688364644\/4L6FV30_Allan_tweet_JPG\" alt=\"The tweets Cabinet Minister Kiri Allan posted after Prime Minister Chris Hipkins' comments during the post-Cabinet media briefing on Monday.\" width=\"576\" height=\"490\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"photo-captioned__information\"><span class=\"caption\">The tweets Cabinet Minister Kiri Allan posted after Prime Minister Chris Hipkins&#8217; comments during the post-Cabinet media briefing on Monday.\u00a0<\/span><span class=\"credit\">Photo:\u00a0Twitter \/ Screenshot<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll take a couple of days off over school holidays because each parent has to as we don&#8217;t have others that can take care of our kid. Please stop conflating my MH with external allegations.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hipkins said Allan was an &#8220;exceptionally talented minister who has contributed an awful lot to our government&#8221;, and in the first instance he planned to speak to her about it.<\/p>\n<p>However, he twice refused to directly answer whether he still had confidence in Allan.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Look, as I&#8217;ve said, we&#8217;re going to catch up and have a good chat about where everything&#8217;s at when I get back from Europe, which will be Friday next week,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>He said he took accusations about ministerial conduct very seriously, but did not see the need for an independent inquiry.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve been very clear with ministers in the time that I&#8217;ve been prime minister that my expectation is that all ministers will treat departmental officials [and] the staff working in their office with respect.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The feedback that I&#8217;ve had from the senior levels of the public service is that the &#8230; relevant chief executives are satisfied that any issues that were raised informally were resolved at the time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Where issues are raised informally and the people who have dealt with them have said that they feel they&#8217;ve been dealt with satisfactorily, I don&#8217;t see the need for there to be a separate layer of inquiry on top of that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He said some people were clearly raising concerns publicly that had not been raised within their organisations.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s difficult to form a judgement on that without knowing why,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t expect ministers to be absolutely perfect human beings, everybody will have a bad day from time to time &#8211; particularly when they&#8217;re under pressure. The question is what do you then do about that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He suggested it was a sign of the changing culture at Parliament, in part\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/476624\/parties-promise-cooperation-as-speaker-orders-review-of-parliament-s-workplace-culture\">following the Debbie Francis review<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think what it does point to is that there has been a change of culture around this place in the last couple of years which in my mind is a good thing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;As a former opposition member I can tell you that allegations of this nature flew around the place all of the time in the whole nine years I was in opposition and none of them ever made it into the public domain &#8211; I&#8217;m talking about of ministers in the previous government. I think it&#8217;s good there is more openness and willingness to talk about that.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Parliament as a workplace did need to change, and the fact the threshold is now higher is a good thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>SOURCE RNZ<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Prime Minister Chris Hipkins intends to speak to Cabinet Minister Kiri Allan in a couple of weeks about recent claims of past disunity with her staff. He suggests the ongoing media interest is a sign of a higher bar for ministerial behaviour than in the past. 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