{"id":18861,"date":"2026-11-06T05:14:24","date_gmt":"2026-11-05T16:14:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=18861"},"modified":"2026-11-06T05:14:24","modified_gmt":"2026-11-05T16:14:24","slug":"national-and-labour-stuck-in-the-middle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thebuzz.apnanetwork.co.nz\/?p=18861","title":{"rendered":"National and Labour stuck in the middle"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\"><em class=\"italic\">Analysis &#8211;<\/em> The consistent theme of this year&#8217;s election campaign has been the decline of the major parties and the growing fascination with their traditionally smaller rivals.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Thursday night&#8217;s <a class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/politics_election-2026\/2347755\/as-it-happened-election-campaign-5-november\">Q+A People&#8217;s Debate<\/a> put that on full display with all seven parties in real contention for seats in the next Parliament side-by-side with no hierarchy and no special treatment for National or Labour.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">There is a reason Christopher Luxon and Chris Hipkins are adamant a place remains for leader head-to-head debates.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">It&#8217;s because the alternative <a class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/politics_election-2026\/2319031\/national-and-labour-increase-support-in-final-1news-verian-poll-before-election\">would require bringing a lot more personality<\/a> while having to fight to get a word in alongside leaders who are talking directly to a smaller voter base that is easier to impress.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pb-16 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"grid justify-center\">\n<figure class=\"mx-auto table\">\n<div class=\"image-ring flex w-full max-w-full -mx-16 md:mx-0 w-screen border-x-0 !max-w-[initial] md:w-[revert-layer] md:!max-w-full [&amp;_img]:w-full [&amp;_img]:md:w-[revert-layer]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/media.rnztools.nz\/rnz\/image\/upload\/s--Ho8udvsO--\/t_kt-crop-16x10\/w_614\/f_auto\/q_auto:eco\/4JFMPT7_HP3_2942_JPG\" alt=\"NZ First&apos;s Shane Jones at the People&apos;s Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"border-stroke-default w-full border-b py-12 text-sm *:inline table-caption caption-bottom mt-auto\">New Zealand First&#8217;s Shane Jones.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">TVNZ\/Supplied<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Opportunity&#8217;s Qiulae Wong went into the debate with fire in her belly after two days of national coverage about <a class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/politics_election-2026\/2346325\/winston-peters-dilemma-is-michael-laws-worth-it\">sexist and offensive comments<\/a> made about her and her fellow candidate by New Zealand First&#8217;s Michael Laws.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">She went in armed with the knowledge that every other leader she was debating was unified in their disgust and disapproval of Laws, including New Zealand First&#8217;s Shane Jones who described the diatribe as &#8220;<a class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/politics_election-2026\/2361857\/reckless-and-foolish-shane-jones-weighs-in-on-michael-laws-in-final-campaign-debate\">reckless and foolish<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Greens&#8217; co-leader Chloe Swarbrick was riding high on multiple polls putting her party in record-winning territory.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori MP Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke was a late sub for her colleague Oriini Kaipara, and despite the lack of warning or prep time she held her own and constantly brought every question back to an issue she was more comfortable speaking to.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pb-16 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"grid justify-center\">\n<figure class=\"mx-auto table\">\n<div class=\"image-ring flex w-full max-w-full -mx-16 md:mx-0 w-screen border-x-0 !max-w-[initial] md:w-[revert-layer] md:!max-w-full [&amp;_img]:w-full [&amp;_img]:md:w-[revert-layer]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/media.rnztools.nz\/rnz\/image\/upload\/s--w7vVQtt4--\/t_kt-crop-16x10\/w_614\/f_auto\/q_auto:eco\/4JFMP8O_HP3_3090_JPG\" alt=\"Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori&apos;s Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke at the People&apos;s Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"border-stroke-default w-full border-b py-12 text-sm *:inline table-caption caption-bottom mt-auto\">Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori MP Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">TVNZ\/Supplied<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">For the coalition partners ACT and New Zealand First it was about pointing out where together the coalition had made good change while simultaneously distinguishing themselves.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Jones played his usual agitator role roaring about fast-track and mining, but also made a considered and impassioned case for greater access to respite care for whanau affected by methamphetamine addiction, and amnesty for families wanting to report it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">ACT leader David Seymour looked equal parts alarmed and hopeful when he realised he and Swarbrick were singing from the same songsheet on how best to handle a teenage social media ban, proving even the most opposite ends of the political spectrum can live in harmony.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pb-16 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"grid justify-center\">\n<figure class=\"mx-auto table\">\n<div class=\"image-ring flex w-full max-w-full -mx-16 md:mx-0 w-screen border-x-0 !max-w-[initial] md:w-[revert-layer] md:!max-w-full [&amp;_img]:w-full [&amp;_img]:md:w-[revert-layer]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/media.rnztools.nz\/rnz\/image\/upload\/s--dkaS0zCH--\/t_kt-crop-16x10\/w_614\/f_auto\/q_auto:eco\/4JFMQ6H_HP3_2758_JPG\" alt=\"Green co-leader Chl\u00f6e Swarbrick addresses ACT leader David Seymour at the People&apos;s Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"border-stroke-default w-full border-b py-12 text-sm *:inline table-caption caption-bottom mt-auto\">ACT leader David Seymour (C) and Greens&#8217; co-leader Chloe Swarbrick (R).<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">TVNZ\/Supplied<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">While Labour&#8217;s Kieran McAnulty brought the fun to the debate with his ramblings about Homer Simpson and his journey from smoking to vaping to nicotene gum, he found it almost impossible to insert himself into the debate when he wanted to.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Instead he was left answering questions he wasn&#8217;t so schooled up on that moderator Jack Tame directed at him, and failed to muscle in on the ones he had talking points for.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Likewise National&#8217;s Nicola Willis struggled to fire.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Despite being the most senior politician on show, Willis seemed to have her back up from the get-go.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pb-16 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"grid justify-center\">\n<figure class=\"mx-auto table\">\n<div class=\"image-ring flex w-full max-w-full -mx-16 md:mx-0 w-screen border-x-0 !max-w-[initial] md:w-[revert-layer] md:!max-w-full [&amp;_img]:w-full [&amp;_img]:md:w-[revert-layer]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/media.rnztools.nz\/rnz\/image\/upload\/s--Sd9t9tmp--\/t_kt-crop-16x10\/w_614\/f_auto\/q_auto:eco\/4JFMQ7W_HP3_2728_JPG\" alt=\"National&apos;s Nicola Willis and Opportunity&apos;s Qiulae Wong at the People&apos;s Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"border-stroke-default w-full border-b py-12 text-sm *:inline table-caption caption-bottom mt-auto\">National&#8217;s Nicola Willis and Opportunity leader Qiulae Wong (L).<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">TVNZ\/Supplied<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The first question out of the blocks was how &#8220;political leaders can lead by example and show respect for differing views and work together to unite New Zealand&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Willis used it to take another whack at Swarbrick, a tactic the National Party has <a class=\"underline-brand-hover visited:text-foreground-secondary hover:visited:text-foreground-primary\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rnz.co.nz\/news\/political\/2355641\/the-attack-ad-election-inside-the-parties-facebook-campaigns\">deployed relentlessly in recent weeks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Despite being a skillful debater with political nous, it is completely plausible Willis&#8217; misfire was simply her realisation the sun might well set on her time as a minister and MP in two days&#8217; time.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">McAnulty and Willis had the toughest jobs on Thursday night trying to sell a vision to a much broader church than any of the other parties.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">They&#8217;re also not able to make the same sweeping promises and declarations that smaller parties often get away with.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pb-16 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"grid justify-center\">\n<figure class=\"mx-auto table\">\n<div class=\"image-ring flex w-full max-w-full -mx-16 md:mx-0 w-screen border-x-0 !max-w-[initial] md:w-[revert-layer] md:!max-w-full [&amp;_img]:w-full [&amp;_img]:md:w-[revert-layer]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"ml:max-h-[50rem] max-w-full aspect-[16\/10] object-cover\" src=\"https:\/\/media.rnztools.nz\/rnz\/image\/upload\/s--9MAPrS5M--\/t_kt-crop-16x10\/w_614\/f_auto\/q_auto:eco\/4JFMPRS_HP3_2959_JPG\" alt=\"Labour&apos;s Kieran McAnulty at the People&apos;s Debate.\" width=\"614\" height=\"384\" \/><\/div><figcaption class=\"border-stroke-default w-full border-b py-12 text-sm *:inline table-caption caption-bottom mt-auto\">Labour&#8217;s Kieran McAnulty.<\/p>\n<p class=\"text-foreground-secondary flex-shrink-0 ml-4\">TVNZ\/Supplied<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">But even in a format where there aren&#8217;t seven people on the stage competing for less than 90 minutes of airtime, the two major parties haven&#8217;t been convincing in their vision or plan to lift out of crisis those doing it the toughest.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">Luxon and Hipkins have had three opportunities to do that in the leader debates in recent weeks but based on polling neither party has been rewarded for their efforts.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">On the eve of the election the polls remain close as ever, and any one of many variables could tip the balance of which parties could negotiate the next government.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">The defining moment of this election could end up being Laws&#8217; inability to keep his thoughts to himself.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-serif-text mb-12 leading-normal\">\n<p class=\"[&amp;_em]:font-serif-text-italic [&amp;_cite]:font-serif-text-italic\">His misogynistic meltdown could give Opportunity the numbers to decide the next government.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>rnz<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Analysis &#8211; The consistent theme of this year&#8217;s election campaign has been the decline of the major parties and the growing fascination with their traditionally smaller rivals. 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